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We've been 'impacted' by forced adoptions from different perspective to what we've read and see there's not much to read in mainstream media. That's telling. The facts are all there and these matter most of all. Include our collective understanding that these many thousands of forced adoptions were egregious breaches of women's rights and responsibilities in Australia during the 1940's - 1980's and the facts read are outrageous. The inquiry is looking at facts then they have to see the imposition of cancer causing drugs such as DES along with other induced malpractices without anyone's consent is also egregious breach of the young unwed pregnant women (many were girls - this is disgraceful example of stereotyping and no amount of todayswisdom whitewashes past ignorance will suffice to recompense these targets of malicous abuse, chaos, corruption (yes the powers that be colluded with state and chuirch) with cruelty. We've seen the effects firsthand. This inquiry is raising factual truths. One affected family who'se seen firsthand the repercussions of 'forced adopitons' on a lot of people Thanks

Lawyers and governments made a whole lot of luca from so called forced adoptions. They're to be accountable and now the murdochracy has been shown further to be the hypocracy uninformed and bias it is, shame on that media also for ever promoting adoptions during the Aussie baby scopp era. Merciless murdoch and government wondering whose pulling whose strings yet know the commonwealth gov. are responsible after reading Womens Electoral Lobby Australia submission to Senate inquiry into forced adoptions. Canberra shame Australian shame Yours truly

The rock solid facts are all here and there. Families were 'maliciously' torn apart. Money exchanged hands for profits over people. Church organisations including the Salvation Army, Catholic Church as one doctor exclaimed were 'untouchable' however one has just admitted rock solid facts as true with an 'apology' to support what the victims of this horrendous abuse suffered. My family, friends, myself and a whole lot of people I seem to be meeting who are talking about this all fully support the senate nquiry into forced adoptions. They who want to assauge their guilty consciences, the real abusers, not parents and infants, staff who had roles which that were responsible need to look in the mirror, I'm disgusted at their constant and ongoing 'cover ups'. M Wickey

It's all so sad and shameful. I feel very sad for you and your siblings - but also for your mother! This is in the same dept as the forced removal of aboriginal children. Regardless of who were the stolen children or who their parents were, the end results were all horrific. Who knows what reason your mother had for 'deserting' her family. Perhaps she suffered from post natal depression, didn't receive any help and left out of fear of what was happening to her. Who knows? I'm sure she didn't want to leave! Women were treated in an appalling manner in the 50's and even in the 60's medical peoples' attitudes to pregnant women was at best patronising and paternalistic! There were no sole parent benefits and child support was not like it is today. The endowment payments weren't even worth accessing from the bank account - so pathetic were they!

Forty Six years on for some - and still no files. Still the denial, regardless of proof. How much more must we Mothers suffer the loss of our babies, the terrible assault - the rape of our human lilves: http://kedeshmothersandbabies.blogspot.com/ Thank you Kedesh Mothers

We've waited a long time for the various states, territories and commonwealth government to look at this. Also the judges and law. With lots of insight into the subject matter (our close friend was a target and we've seen first hand what it does to demean and stigmatise) we advise the one and only resource centre in Sydney Australia that is funded (guess by whom) the Benevolent Society with their post adoption resource centre is a disgrace. They denigrate the original families whilst making adoptive paremnts feel proud and whilst amassing their profits. This company or organisation were/are pro adoptions, surrogacy and all the rest whilst they claim non for profit yet have accumulated the wealthiest land mass (that could house the homeless if they were so benevolent). There is a senate inquiry yet we're wondering why no one is regulating places like this one, it's a sham. Wjo's covering what there. Reminds us of Coal Seam Gas mining gping unregulated whilst theives rob through the nose except the senate is looking at human degradadtion & loss not land degradtion and loss affecting humans. We're ashamed of an Australia that allowed so many to make profits from the excluded original families as well as remained silent whilst the young women and their babies were subjected to what is nothing less than torture. Forget about 10 Hail Mary's book that's a life story that's nothing to do with forced adoptions. Not a nice saga nonetheless. Our hearts go out to the original mums and their babies and dads (though we know a lot of them fled the scene and that's low life in and of itself as low as the authorities.} The Commonwealth Government and the NSW State Government have blood on their hands as do supposedly benevolent others who colluded with them to allow this all to happen. Thanks 91������̳ all media who are telling truth not fiction about the tragedies of adoptions. Carol and Simon NSW Australia.

The ability of medical, governmental, legal, religious, news media and "charitable" persons to practice EMPATHY is no less a prerequisite to being human today/2011 that it was in the 40's 50's 60's 70's and 80's in Australia or elsewhere. My main concern is the empathy which was tragically lacking in the experiences and times of Forced Adoptions needs to surface during and after this senate inquiry {for all the birthing mothers, fathers and their lost babies.}, Empathy is the primary our whole society seems to go to great lengths to disregard and this is a reflection of all the institutions named above. I read about this social cause and felt shame for something I had no connection with a shame of Australia that needs be surfaced by the Commonwealth Government swallowing their giant pride and acknowledging the intolerable cruelties of forced adoptions. 91������̳ Media you have two differing sites thanks for putting them together so the commentors can feel it's all integrated into a whole rather than two separate blogs. Thanks Carl

I'm asserting points of view regarding not least LEGAL aspects of adoption. Many laws are made by and for the rich and/or priviledged. Some would argue all laws are made thus. The laws in relation to adoption of newborn infants have been unjust. This has been raised by at least one known Australian artist and several Australian adoption groups. During the timeline of the senate inquiry into forced adoptions the lawswere more rigid than today, however today we have a double-standard in relation to 'legal guardianship.' Female politicians and other very affluent mothersfrequently if not almost always choose nannies or carers for their babies and children. Under no circumstances is it considered these young ones be given the surnames or whole influence of these caring people. If a nanny in Australia were to try to claim legal guardianship (due to various and differing reasons) she (or he) would be denied by law. Reality is these nannies or carers fulfill motherly roles. (we all note how many changes of nannies many of these affluent have). The surnames still remain that of the 'legal guardian' being the natural parents. The assumption in past adoption practices were the natural mums socio-economic position and/or other position were reason to exclude these girls/women from 'legal guardianship' or 'legal parenthood' despite the fact/reality people's circumstances change i.e. are not static, and not as rigid as some laws. Adoption today according to present law also assumes a static position of the natural parents as well as the adoptive parents. I could sight celebrities here but that's another aspect distracting from main theme here. I raise the issue of the adoptive parent/s who benefited with a 'wanted' (yet not conceived) infant born from the natural mothers and fathers misfortune, suffering and tormenting long term losses due to circumstances beyond their control. Circumstances very much in the control and abusive or negative power of the law and government practices (even if latter were not policies). Policies and practces are not always as one. These natural parents lose and the surnames are discarded as well as varying cultures and history as is the same loss for the infant adopted. In this context the senate inquiry into forced adoptions (and I assert there would be few which weren't and aren't coercive) the politicians may or may not raise reality/facts those who benefit anothers child may at a later time fall into misfortune themselves or for various reasons of their own seek to turn away the child they were entrusted as legal guardians/parents of, and via legal channels on occasions. This has happened, still happens and is almost always a reflection of laws which are not dissimilar to property laws, even as infants, children and all people are not anyone's property. Money does change hands in adoption one way or another and in many cases ;arge sums of money. Adoptions (and Surrogacy) is a very profitable 'business' for those whose values lack human capacity to value human life and history, origins, roots, alongside surrogacy in Australia and abroad (the new 'version' of 'adoption'). No profits have ever been made by the bereaved, grieving or psychologically injured .natural mothers or those natural fathers who stood by their girlfriends or women and admitted paternity. whilst losing their 'family'. One area of 'adoption' whereby the mothers (undoubtedly poor or mentally unstable) appear to freely 'choose to lose their babies' is the latter 'Surrogacy'. I assert knowingly there are few adolescents with enough if any understanding of self and society to freely (and legally) make any informed decision to lose their conceived. carried and birthed babies. let alone, few as such, who could freely make any decision (except under duress/coercion/force) to experience the tragic loss of their babies to more 'priviledged' in circumstances at the time others/non-rekated parents. There's a valid reasonwhy the old cliche holds seeds of truth 'Blood is thicker than water' even as many of us prize and affirm autonomy as a goal or accomplishment. I also assert numbers of women (not girls or adolescents) who lost their born infants under this same duress/force/coercion were probably again without any understanding of self and society. The mere fact we have a specific Human Services in Australian States and Territory where the adoption department is titled 'Adoption and Permanent Care' raises not only large questions about adoptions abd our citizens human rights but also about our government then and now and their associeted legal processes, not least the language and dialogue in this area of human welfare. No one is a 'permanent' for anyone, and the amount of time a natural mother was and is given to make any informed decision of such huge dimension to lose their infants to adoption (or surrogacy) was/is too rigid, generic and lacking all insight into the individuality of the various cultures, identities, history of the natural mothers and again where they had or are admitting paternity (and this also is another subject) the natural fathers also. I finally assert I am yet to meet a natural mother who has not suffered immense and lifelong psychological injury during and after the loss of their baby. Few of these mothers were ever 'supported' either by government or legal channels, and not excluding 'right wing what we now call religious' channels' in timeline of Senate Inquiry into Forced Baby Adoptions' in this the 21st Century. The targets of the massive and tragic bullying need ongoing support today; counselling by people each indovidual chooses (not by 'charitable' takers), some may need cognitive therapy, and all were before and are today deserving of an apology from the commonwealth government, state and territory governments and I emphasise the legal practices which enabled such injusrtice. It's time to give back to all who lost to adoptions. No one can dare efface these loving people anymore try as they may. The senate inquiry needs to understand abusers of power or negative power holders ultimately pay a price for their lack of humanity. No one can take away their 'history' ultimately. . .

I read and respect what Kerry Smith has written in reference to the Senate Inquiry into Forced Baby Adoptions. It's a good bit of news media. I also support this social issue as I know people who have been given a hard time for simply being targeted and harmed by past coerced adoption policies. One thing I add last of all. When I was directed to look up information about the Senate Inquiry I found several posts (instead of one) with the same news media written by Kerry Smith but with different feedbacks as in comments from 91������̳ Weekly. Maybe there is some glitch in this news media that needs to be fixed, whatever I like a lot of the comments as well as Kerry Smith's journalism. Katherine

Just for the record private patients were treated just as harrowingly and treacherously as were the public patients in these maternity facilities. It's a national disgrace that is now in the history books and can't be erased. I've seen as has Katherine the terrible effects of most adoptions and add by professional awareness,most are forced. What natural mum 'gives up' (the bigoted stereotyping language appalling) or by choice loses her own. Cheers Jamie Clinical Psychologist

Siting the time of the Senate Inquiry into Forced Adoptions we note how the Vietnam War (an unjust war and as John Pilger unearthed empirical data about Pol Pot etc. to his brilliance and credit) was on the boil during time and then in midst and then over, yet not at all resolved. Young Australian men were press ganged into this war until conscription was swiped, that took time. Some of these men were natural dads and for and to these men I have no doubts they wanted to be available for their girlfriends or those who they had contact with intimately. This is another tragic reality not only of adoptions but also of wars. There is some connection however it eludes us at this time. Finally, because this is 91������̳ Weekly and we are very concerned about all gender/peoples impacted by grave injustices as forced adoptions and: A man who unearthed facts and figures indisputable truths Julian Assange and Wikileaks. The latter is in our depth of sense of injustice, and we stand by this courageous and remarkable man. (out of context, only in so far as it's another utterly atrocious circumstance of outrageous bullying by 'Officials'). Good on you 91������̳ Weekly. Liz and Joe

I went into a library in the eastern suburbs of Sydney NSW and found a heap of flyers about the senate inquiry. They were from a group named Origins Inc. NSW. Prior to reading about this civil rights or human social cause I knew very little. However, I have an aunt who has been displaced and denied access to her own original family because she lost her baby to adoption. This aunt has stayed in my mind and when I read the flyers I gave this a lot of thought. Anything or anyone that or who fosters intolerance stereotyping and discrimination should be exposed as happened with these mums and their babies and from what I perceive may still be happening. I'm now in the know just why my aunt was denied the right to attend the various functions and 'family' events we all were (except her) involved in. For this I find I question not only the governments NSW included but also the families who couldn;t find the magnanimity or even bottom line human dfecency to include my aunt and her 'family' into our fold. This is a shameful cycle and as Katherine Butterworth states on Origins Inc. petition along with endless others should never have been. I question the government's role in this injustice and am angered it hurt and displaced my aunt. With full understanding in a democracy I and anyone has the right to question our government. Physical or emotional thuggery is not on and from what I've continued to read this happened with multitudes of forced adoptions. Neither is discrimination on the basis of marital status or any other 'status' acceptable. An end to this cycle of abuse, corruption and chaos that affects people who are very vulnerable and needed as they do today support and generosity of spirit. Thanks. .

Dr Geoffrey Rickarby (Expert on these adoptions) stated the forced adoptions happened and had dire consequences on the families. What I read is off the wall with everything about this subject. I'm studying and have to look at families torn apart, and this is one place to find lots of resources. The collective charities, public and private enterprises were all committed with this. What I want to know is what committment can the government honour to the families who were and those who survived who remain collectively known as forced adoptions. My heart goes out to the targets and whoever said bully were at work they perceive correctly. Julie

Your lack of equanimity in the face of others suffering is very telling. For the record your taces are largely paying for the politicians to live well and in a glory they don;t deserve for having the gall to allow this to happen. You are a very negative angry person. Your input is ugly and not worthy of any further thought Ben W

Saying sorry is never wrong when wrong has been inflicted on anyone. I see Ben's viewpoint clearly and cannot understand why anyone would deny a meagre amount of taxes (compared to that spent on say Rudd's overseas trips) paying for a Senate Inquiry that is just and long over due. This I address to 'No thnaks'. It's sad to read about your views and your story yet don't for one minute think there is a statute of limitations on when tragedies of past may be raised by parliament. There is one very real link between the differing families torn asunder and lots of angst or rightful anger at injustices Freedom of speech is a valuable thing we have (except where is it for Julian, David and Bradley and other amazing people who dare to tell the truth to "power" ?) however which may be really or is "Dominance" almost if not entirely dictatorial. We need your voice 'No thanks' but not the throwing stones and penny pinching at people who are finally raising their voices and telling the world "What was done to us was not only wrong but illegal and unconscionable." Whatever is unearthed and found to be wrong let there be voices raised and the truth told. There's no merit in stepping on people who are or have suffered social injustices such as forced loss of their own babies or forced loss of their own original parents. Bullys beware you're out of vogue. Cheers Dominique

Hi, Uk USA AUSTRALIA AFRICA THE WORLD We lost our kids to social workers in scotland read below now both children are parted injustice is not the word We are writing as we have set up a new support website for families in scotland who have lost their children to social workers care foster care and adoption. Our aim is to support the parents and fight for justice also we offer a name and shame area for professionals and the public. our website can be found at www.parentsinjusticegroupscotland.co.uk or google parents injustice group scotland. We want the media and local groups to support us we Have only Just Launched the site and many features are to be added we feel we offer a unique service which currently dont exsist in scotland at present like our english partners down south we will help families get justice name and shame people who have lied and hold them accountable for their actions. We would like the media to report on our statement below and highlight this in the news the founder of pigs is a man who lost his children to the care system in scotland but child stealing by the state is happening every day so is cover ups by high profile people we hope your media outlet hasnt been gagged for reporting the truth. We are also looking for community groups to share website links with us and families to have their say on our website. For the Sake of all children let us have our say please. Andrew 07827731060 +44 uk 08452249506 + 4 uk Our Statement We have been created by the need to fight widespread social care injustice and abuse of draconian state power. Children are being ripped from their parents simply because they are considered "unconventional" or even single. Just like pigs we rootle under the surface to find those golden nuggets of truth hidden beneath half truths, targets, idealised aims and a "not my decision" culture. In fact, we are the truffle P.I.G.S. of the social care world. Our aim is to help and support parents who have lost their children through spurious reasons. Low income, untidy house, learning difficulties, bad diet, disorganised lifestyle or a perceived non cooperation with social services. We don't claim that these are fully acceptable but if the money wasted by the legal and social system was spent helping families with these difficulties there would be no need for their abusive and draconian behaviour. The whole system cannot be seen to have made a mistake, so they cover up any dodgy decisions. Everyone has seen how government and bankers squirm out of responsibility for their actions. Even sympathetic solicitors have little chance against this state conspiracy. The worst thing about the whole rotten business is that the children pay for the rest of their lives. And it doesn't stop there. Their children end up suffering too. Three generations affected by inept decision making, it's beyond criminal. So please get in touch however hopeless and battered you feel. We can and will make a difference to you and your children.

I stand by Charles regarding Julian Assange being denied his human rights and that in the constituion as well as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights there is are rights enshrined in any democracy that have been ignored for this noble man. This cannot and wont continue. I am standing with him all the way. I see the connection with this senate inquiry into forced adoptions in that it's all about first denying these wrongs happened, there were and still are wrong abusive cover-ups almost as if another 'gate' happened and is happening all over again. Gotto look out for another 'gate' as it appears it's in our midst. The people have to speak up and be proactive to prevent any futher harm to Julian and also the targets of any malpractice, mistreatment and yes terror imposed on single mums and their babies. It's a very differemt story for Julian Assange and Wikileaks except for the common denominater that Bullies are and have rise, and now need all of us to rise and beat them down. Bullies and bullying is an enormous social issue, and it is in play with the remarkable Julian Assange, just as it was in play with the people who lost their families; different dimensions yet all under bullying, chaos, corruption and tragic abuse. Not on not ever.

Mainstream media are telling the truth too. 22/10/2011 The Age journalisn by Dylan Welch stating the Commonwealth Legislation enabled this atrocity to occur and affect many thousands and this is in 60's and 70's what about the rest. WELA covered this legislation well. The silent voices are the ones I'm concerned about as they've no time for submitting their personal anguish and terror to any government official who may humiliate and damage them yet again. As for making funds available for reunions this is already available. Though the agencies that are entrusted with dealing with this are biased I read and believe. Counselling should be lifelong that's a given due to the long time they've suffered. Imagine not knowing how your baby was abd being denied any human right to do so.This is totally intolerable rubbish and belongs to the dark ages not when all this happened. As for a memorial this is tasteless, though there was a social war and innocent people got caught up in a massive cover up as trade of one kind or another occurred on very vulnerable people's of the time when discrimination ran riot,that's the unwed mums. The stories I'm reading make me sick. Julia Gillard has put out a budget for unwed mums and look out this might all happen again. When does Australia learn from the lessons of the past and stop dividing up people and families into the haves and have nots? It's time for all to take a stand and leave apathy and complacency about this kind of numerous abuses so governments are no longer top down. That didn't work when the unwed mums were abused and used for babies for infertile or plain vain "families" benefits and it wont work today. Restore the families with more than flippant apologies and no going bribing the witnesses please. Cheryl and Baz

'The wealth sector uses politicians like their storm troopers' part of Noam Chomsky's writings in the Good Weekend. He was talking about USA and yet it's no different here. See the Movie Australia, and Blessed and see for yourselves how single unwed mothers and their kids are treated and portrayed (wrongly) yesterday and today. I'm all the way with this just cause to reinstate the naturals mums and their kids. Noam also mentioned something about how poor women and their children are treated or how they should be. With utter respect and not shortchanged as the P.M. has done in the recent budget. Top down doesn't work and there's something coming that no political power can control. It's all about being human finally. Gomaz October 2011

go again green left weekly you have a lot of merit from this inquiry and what's being expressed. truth and true freedom of expression is paramount with you people, great, needed. I too am one part family of adoption but wont go into details yet feel mindfully the forced adoptions were too large in numbers and names to be discounted as simply a senate inquiry and only a handful (large enough though) or few of the people terrorised even submitted to the senate inquiry organised by greens government initially. i can see why not who can't it's hard to trust the untrustworthy who say one thing and do another. I didn't submit because I don't believe the politicians care about anyone except themselves, {their behaviour shows this} {they're delusional to the core} and they don't even trust each other after lots not least Gillards stabbing in the back of stupid Rudd and prior Lathams shoot down. Bloody shameful behaviour and these guys are mingling with royalty so it shows how much credibility royalty and politicians have today, none. i also find the queen and kings presence in Australia appalling it's the 21st century, yet they're here for said purposes and are believe it or not (I can't stand it it's plain crass ugly) they are heads of commonwealth states in Australia as well as depressed and downtrodden England that I've just come home from. It's dark there dismal and Australia is linked to that, why again? There's no link except for the monarchy's advantage. They are also delusional. Who pays for their gardeners and staff with all that and the country downtrodden to a dreadful grey cloud of a country. It's like with America and Imperialism it just doesn't work today for Australians and has to go. I admired Sir William Deane a queens council 'cause he was for real and is a humane utterly decent man, but since his leaving forget the monarchy in Australia. We're old enough to be autonomous now. republicans rise where are you hiding? that is republicans need to rise where the hell are you guys? as for the people who had their heads trodden on when they were pregnant and the babies of these girls and women without any supports whatsoever except malicious discriminatory anti human rights tragic wrong doers I'm one of you so am also with you and this cause. i think a national apology is definitely in order and I also agree there's much much more to this than a simplistic national apology. Much more and not piecemeal nor patronising us anymore thanks. you demoralised us once and that's all over with we've risen and bully's are not capable of pulling any of our strings to their benfit today. the commonwealth of australia queenie and co did wrong and it's all on paper and on record and they are being asked to make amends. I have to add the queen needs a new writer what comes out of her mouth is soul-dead these days. they have to get it right the people don't care about the have's and have nots we all want equality to spread {it's happening via certain circles already} and dominating overbearing self-righteous delusional pretentious over the top royalty or government have terribly lost favour {horse racing is a major gambling problem and is glamorised by guess who {the wealthiest news media, royalty and government}, yet the news media focus on petty poker machines that also damage lives yet lets get real it's at that top end the horse racing that makes the illusion of gain and benefit from something indecent horse racing. royalty are big on this one yet can;t even see their own error regarding human ethics and damage due to gambling here. bloody shameful lot. They shoot for fun too, still do, where are their heads? i believe they are adolescent mentality. them and us and we're on top. pity the poor and yet queenie will visit the flood ridden aussie estates for what to make them feel worthy of being given tokenism support. she could get rid of one of her places and actually fund their well-being back to good health and livelihood but no she's too greedy. whoever wrote the following I'm all in aggreeance top down no longer works. everyone has human rights and no one in any adult world is any larger or smaller than anyone else. to think otherwise the queen and government have remained psychologically adolescent. wendy psychologist australia

I'm a man of large means with much social capital & influence outside of mainstream media. This social cause has finally been raised and there will be grievances healed. If not by the commonwealth government by means and people who do sincerely care. The PM lost favour by her flippancy with simple {negating the depth of wrongs committed} words to these people and that human error can be rectified if she throws away her unsophistacated pride. My family, I and my professional colleagues are fully supportive of a national and news media apology to all who suffered or still suffer the unsufferable being loss of one's child or loss of one's parents just after birth. This will never be forgotten yet it can heal somewhat with conscionable voices speaking up. Whatever the senate may eventuate and we all want this to be positive and caring, there are also higher authorities looking at this. Cheers Jack

I draw all to the attention of the unconscionable submission made by Annette Gallard C.E. O od NSW Government Human Services Community Services [this used to be D.O.C.S.] and became corporate with Tanya Plibersek MP [Comm] at helm. Annette Gallard distorts and misuses yet again in 2011 "in the interests of the child" [this has been done and continues to be done rampantly to try and assuage the guilty consciences of those who take children from their genetic parents] and in her submission makes no mention nor conscionable effort to address the human needs of the birth mums and birth dads. It's a shameful submission and this woman shows us all who is heading the dept. of "human services" outside the ministers and what values and attitudes she holds; negative bias and discrimination is covert and overt in her submission and her words are soulless. Some of the government received submissions are very daunting and truth just shines from them, this one of Gallards is empty and meaningless and covers her nicely as a profit seeker more concerned about profits than people. Why can't Australia follow the leads of academics and many who are saying the tax payers are paying too much for this middle tier of government staffing, and get rid of state and territory government staff, we're clearly and well-documented over governed. Back to Gallard, well done, because we wouldn't have known this had it not gone to print. What a tough cookie and she's C.E.O. of Human Services that are clearly not very human at all. They don't care, and if they did they would have left out "in the interests of the child" All people have human rights, civil liberties, life, liberty and human freedoms, not only children. Good work 91������̳ weekly for as usual raising social and political matters we are all concerned about and I don't think of you as left or anything other than truth news media, one of the few truth news media today.

I hereby third your clarity, assertive and honest opinions Anon and G.N. I am a human rights lawyer and Gillard, Gallard, Plibersek Macklin their advisers ad fin. won't get away with their segregating discriminating scapegoating any disadvantaged and disabled any longer. This all falls in with Human Rights Law. The female unwed mothers were disabled from holding, feeding and naturally nurturing their own infants; that's known as human rights violations. Being defensive and also inaccurate in what was meant to be a "professional" submission on internet, hard copies in chambers now, and not acknowledging wrongs is as you rightly write g.n. not acknowledging the wrongs and one large cover up. These people do believe they are above the law and they're going to learn the human reality of this delusionary non-thinking very soon.

There's a multitude of lies, hypocrasy and errors in the NSW State Government, Fred Nile, and other Pro-Adoption (shame, shame) submissions (NSW is most prominant). The conflict of interest with Senator Adams is writhe and real (why has this been neglected??) ( she's not honourable and should never've been on that panel). She ommitted that DES was forced on these girls/women ( common use brand known as Stilboestra) given to literally thousands of girls/women as a de-lactate and as someone correctly writes it was never endorsed by pharmaceutical companies to use as this) prior to any one considering the 'retraction of consent'. How can you retract anything let alone the breast milk before the person has fully consented, and that breast milk (the babies human/natural/biological sustenance) was taken away by a means so foul and before any forced consent, and is known to be carcinogenic? This speaks a lot about just how determined this malicious mob of ethical and phusical thugs wanted to seperate birth mums from their babies; and they were under 'policy' to do so. If the 'consent' had a time frame whereby a mother could say "no, I don't want to lose my own' no girl/woman would've had Stilboestral or any of it's other brand names of DES thrust on them. My wife was pregnant and given this drug for a de-lactate prior to our marriage. I'm angry as hell whilst she suffers from a cancer that is causing pain and hardsship, affecting our whole family. I'm with some consolation some human rights lawyers, one particular judge are now looking at the broad angles and outrageous horrors (not far away from Auchwitz) of Australian (yes Commonwealthy Government Policy endorsed: See WELA Submission) of forced baby adoptions in our Australian history. If any of this is happening today so help me God the culprits/bully's will fall on their own swords quicker than they can wield their callous inhumane negative power, a power so evil, corrupt and cruel it wont be long before the government loses all it's credibility unless it makes some major changes to systems policies and practices. I'm ashamed of Tanya Plibersek's Human Services and her colleague and our fellow citizen's submission (Annette Gallard's) NSW Government defenesive and lying cover up submission of DOCS that makes the Salvation Army and all the colluding bully wrong doers think 'they were part of a time with values and tattitudes that thought this way': UNTRUE. As one writer said so poignantly and correctly: humanity and empathy are in every era, past and present. Chris and family Husband, Father, Brother, Uncle, Cousin, Lawyer.